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If Dismas needed further purgation, and he was given heaven on , then wouldn’t that disprove purgatory? The Church has never defined the exact nature of the duration for the final purification.The common understanding in the tradition of the Church is that it is prolonged, but it’s not a prolonged duration. But for some Protestants the good thief, traditionally named St. It would seem that his story justifies doctrines held by many Protestants.For example, Dismas was saved without baptism, which at first glance could give reason to believe that baptism is not necessary for salvation.Another doctrine held by many Protestants that the narrative seems to justify is that works are not necessary for salvation.I remember several years ago, while I was sitting in the optometrist’s chair with the big tech-y glasses on, my doctor attempted to persuade me that the good thief didn’t do any good works to receive his reward of salvation; he simply had faith.He could have experienced a quick refinement and still entered heaven on that same day.Another response is that the argument assumes that the word 339), which at the time of Jesus’ crucifixion wasn’t heaven, since Jesus had not yet ascended.

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He who descended is he who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things (Eph. So it may well be the abode of the dead that Jesus promised to be with Dismas on , not heaven.

If one means no final purification for Dismas in particular, then yes.

But if one means no final purification absolutely, then no.

A conversion which proceeds from a fervent charity can attain the complete purification of the sinner in such a way that no punishment [temporal punishment] would remain (CCC 1472).

Dismas may very well have gone through a conversion fervent enough to completely satisfy the temporal punishment due for his sin and thus have no need for purgatory. But what if Dismas’s conversion wasn’t fervent enough?

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